Two former Number 10 advisers chat to Gary Gibbon about the likelihood of a new centrist party, what Brexit tells us about voter behaviour and where that will take our politics.

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Pollster Andrew Cooper worked on two referendums with varying success - for Remain in 2016 and more successfully for the NO campaign in Scotland's referendum in 2014. Gavin Kelly worked for Gordon Brown at the Treasury and at Number 10 - he's now Chief Executive of the Resolution Trust.

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