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I talk to Prof. Legutko about not being liberal under liberal hegemony, the straight line from communism to liberal democracy, the meaning of freedom, the importance of technology to the enduring power of liberalism, the future of Europe and the EU, and inhabiting the profile of the perpetual outcast.

Ryszard Legutko is a Polish philosopher and politician, a current member of the European Parliament, and a professor of philosophy at the Jagiellonian University in Kraków, specializing in ancient philosophy and political theory.

He is the author of the recent "The Cunning of Freedom - Saving The Self In An Age Of False Idols" and the dissident right cult classic "The Demon in Democracy - Totalitarian Temptations in Free Societies"

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