The post-mortem into the Bengals horror show in Cleveland is here!

Ace and Zim take a painful look back at Cincinnati's horrible start to the NFL season with a 24-3 defeat to state rivals, the Cleveland Browns.

It was such a comprehensive defeat in all areas of the pitch, as well as on the sidelines, that Zim admits 'the Browns have earned my respect'.

There's plenty more news to digest on this episode too - and not much of it good.

The Bengals surprisingly released OT La'el Collins off the PUP list just one game into the season, meaning he is now a free agent. The guys discuss the likely reasons behind that move and examine the depth of the O Line as a result.

Plus, wide receiver Tee Higgins' agent has said any hopes of the star wideout getting a new deal done are 'on hold' until the end of the season. Many fans had hoped a deal would get over the line after Joe Burrow's was completed - but this seems a long way off now. Ace and Zim examine what happens next and if the Bengals are thinking of moving on.

Zim is honest and admits he 'got it wrong' on thoughts that Higgins deal had been done earlier on this year. You can't get it right all of the time!

The episode finishes with thoughts on what Zac Taylor's men need to do better before the Baltimore Ravens arrive in town on Sunday for what Zim believes is already a 'must win' game.

0:00 What's coming up?
2:26 Bengals and Tee Higgins deal on hold after 'low ball' offer
3:48 Zim admits 'I got it wrong' on the Higgins deal
9:30 Bengals could play hardball with Higgins after agent statement
15:35 The Bengals will never draft a player with an agent they don't like
17:53 La'el Collins released off PUP - becomes a free agent
28:29 Breaking down the horrible loss to the Browns
33:44 Joe Mixon looked good despite the loss
37:06 Browns game was like the movie 'The Last Boy Scout'
38:10 Ace: 'The coaches got out-coached! It was horrible'
40:30 Zim: 'The Browns have earned my respect'
42:59 Chase: 'We just lost to some elves'
45:23 How do the Bengals fix it for the Ravens?
51:15 Who will have the biggest bounce-back game v Ravens


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