As Chad Daybell and Lori Vallow face indictments related to the deaths of Chad's wife, Tammy; Lori's husband, Charles; Lori's brother, Alex; Lori's children, JJ and Tylee, many LDS church members have taken issue with the suggestion that Mormon beliefs played any role in these deaths.
In the conclusion of our two-part series, Lauren and John Matthias, co-hosts of Hidden: A True Crime podcast, and Mindy Caldwell join John in exploring the Mormon influences on Chad Daybell and Lori Vallow.
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Hidden: A True Crime Podcast explores the hidden motives behind unimaginable crimes, while examining our deepest fears along the way. Join us on a journey into the darkest recesses of the human mind and the unconscious motivations that drive human behaviors, both good and bad, in order to understand the world and ourselves. Pull up a chair at our dinner table as the husband and wife team of Dr. John Matthias, a forensic psychologist, and Lauren Matthias, a journalist, delve into the psychological facets of unthinkable crimes. What are you hiding? What are you hiding from? What remains hidden?
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Show notes:
Hidden: A True Crime Podcast
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Hidden True Crime YouTube channel:
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Visions of Glory: One Man's Astonishing Account of the Last Days by John Pontius
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Early Mormonism and the Magic World View by D. Michael Quinn
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Lauren's full interview with "Girl on Fire":
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The Second Comforter: Conversing with the Lord Through the Veil by Denver Snuffer
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Timecodes:
00:00:00 Introduction and opening remarks
00:09:56 The victims and background of the Daybell case
00:17:57 Chad Daybell becomes Julie Rowe's publisher
00:24:10 Eric Smith still believes in Chad's "spiritual gifts" even after the murders
00:35:05 How the beliefs of Julie Rowe and Chad Daybell are rooted in Mormonism
00:45:29 Chad's "spiritual rating system" and "zombies"
00:53:25 Chad's use of a pendulum to tell people who they were in "past probations"
01:02:38 Sexual grooming and marital infidelity in Chad’s groups
01:27:29 Lori Vallow's family background
01:40:30 Lori's beliefs that led to her meeting Chad
01:50:57 Lori talks about murdering her fourth husband
02:02:06 Lori as a mother
02:06:54 Lori and Chad meet
02:13:44 Chad's "prophesies" that his first wife would die
02:16:59 The family dynamics as Lori and Chad get "sealed" while still married to other people
02:25:58 Lori's brother kills her husband, and may have been the one who killed the children
02:30:30 A theory as to how each of the deaths may have happened [Warning: Graphic content]
02:45:09 Evidence that Chad, Lori, and others in the Daybell circle knew that the victims would be killed
03:07:41 The prophecies of Julie Rowe and her justifications when they failed
03:18:23 Summary of the connections between Mormonism and the Daybell case
03:43:06 Closing remarks
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