The full interview is available on Apple Podcasts: theproblem.link/AnneApplebaum

Brazil’s insurrection is just the latest in a series of attacks on democracy around the world. So we’re talking to Anne Applebaum, a staff writer at The Atlantic and author of the book “Twilight of Democracy” about why autocracy is making a comeback and how we stop it. We dive into democracy’s roots as an unstable form of government, the role of global elites on both sides, and why fascism is really just a money-laundering scheme.

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