In this engaging dialogue, Dr. Jordan Peterson and Joe Rogan challenge the notion perpetuated by some postmodern theorists, like Michel Foucault, that all hierarchical structures are fundamentally about power and control. Using the example of plumbers, Peterson humorously illustrates the absurdity of this claim, arguing that people generally choose a plumber based on competence and reputation, not power dynamics. Rogan and Peterson argue that hierarchies in the West are mostly based on competence and expertise, rather than a desire to dominate others. This discussion illuminates the multi-dimensional nature of hierarchies and the various factors that contribute to an individual's position within them, emphasizing the importance of distinguishing between competent authority and corrupt power plays. #JordanPeterson #JoeRogan #Hierarchies #Power #Postmodernism

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