A recent prisoner swap between the U.S. and China caught the world’s attention. On this special episode of Zoom In Zoom Out, Wenchi Yu based in Washington, D.C. brings us dispatches from Uyghur-American activist Nury Turkel, whose mother was among the three Uyghurs on the flight bound for the U.S..

In Part 2 of the two-part interview, Turkel dives into the U.S Uyghur policy, which he believes was what made the prisoner exchange possible and that he expects continuity in the second Trump presidency.

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