Susanne Cook-Greuter is an internationally known expert in adult development and self-actualization. She received her doctorate in human development and psychology from Harvard. Her groundbreaking work with Ego development Theory looks at the relationship between self-story and meaning-making. She currently serves as the strategic advisor and research director of -Vertical Development Academy, which facilitates leadership maturity in individuals, teams, and organizations. In this episode, we talk about why growth is overrated, the critical shift in human development, and the importance of honoring all stages.

[Links & Resources]

Ego Development: A Full-Spectrum Theory Of Vertical Growth And Meaning Making
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An Introduction to Developmental Stage Theories - [ Ссылка ]
Vertical Developmental Academy (VeDA) [ Ссылка ]


[Show Notes]

0:00 - Intro
0:53 - How Susanne got into developmental psychology
4:29 - How the sentence completion test helps map a person’s development
6:27 - The limits of language in knowing and describing reality
12:15 - How development plays a role in the variability of psychedelic experiences
13:28 - What was missing from Jane Loevinger’s work
16:48 - The role identity plays in human development
20:56 - How the sense of objectivity changes as a person develops
24:25 - What is the center of gravity in ego development theory?
27:15 - The role environment plays in human development
28:53 - Susanne & Artem discuss psychedelics, spirituality, and integrated development
42:32 - The most important polarities all humans have to manage
44:20 - How is Ego Development Theory different from other developmental stage theories
44:42 - Why growth is overrated
51:52 - The conquest and exploitation of nature
56:52 - The critical shift in human development
1:03:31- Why the idea of being self-made is a delusion
1:06:59 - Susanne and Artem speak about Vertical Development
1:11:25 - Susanne speaks about two new books that she is writing
1:15:51 - The importance of honoring all stages and all beings
1:17:51 - New trends in human development
1:28:05 - Does Susanne’s brain automatically map people into stages?
1:30:10 - What thinkers/teachers/authors influenced Susanne’s view of the world?
1:32:35 - Susanne and Artem connect on their shared passion for language


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