Margaret Atwood, famed author, poet and “dystopia prophet,” joins Offline to talk about fighting tyranny and finding hope. Much like her latest book, Old Babes in the Wood, Atwood’s conversation with Jon sandwiches her thoughts and fears on the present between poignant chapters of the past. They discuss censorship, religion, parenting and how to listen for what you can’t hear.

CHAPTERS
0:00 - Intro
1:04 - How are we doing?
3:40 - Why people are okay with Totalitarianism
10:45 - Religion’s influence on government
16:03 - Ad Break
18:03 - Does Democracy have a compelling story?
27:53 - The Left controlling content and fighting extremism
33:50 - Are writers too scared to write?
40:17 - Ad Break
41:41 - How does the internet change novel writing?
45:10 - What does Margaret Atwood want young people to know?

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Crooked believes that we need a better conversation about politics, culture, and the world around us—one that doesn’t just focus on what’s broken, but what we can do to fix it. At a time when it’s increasingly easy to feel cynical or hopeless, former Obama staffers Jon Favreau, Jon Lovett, and Tommy Vietor have created a place where people can have sane conversations that inform, entertain, and inspire action. In 2017 they started Crooked with Pod Save America—a no-bullshit conversation about politics. Since then, we continue to add shows, voices, and opportunities for activism, because it’s up to all of us to do our part to build a better world. That’s it. End of mission.

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