Talk's Ian Collins is joined by deputy policy director for CSJ Sophia Worringer to discuss the news headlines in circulation.
The UK will issue financial sanctions on people smuggling gangs in an attempt to stop the networks behind the channel crossings.
Sophia says, the networks "have to be caught in the first place for this to work" but "the Prime Minister is absolutely right."
The pair also speak about Elon Musk and a senior Tory MP calling for a retrial of convicted child killer Lucy Letby.
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