Janna Bastow is a former product manager, and currently the CEO and co-founder of ProdPad. She also co-founded Mind the Product, a community for PMs, which has grown to 300,000 members across the world. In today’s podcast, Janna discusses the limitations of timeline-based Gantt charts and her “Now/Next/Later” framework. She also shares stories about hosting conferences and gives some great tips on how to improve your presentation skills and cope with performance anxiety.

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• The ProdPad newsletter: [ Ссылка ]

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Referenced:

• Mind the Product: [ Ссылка ]
• The Trouble with Traditional Roadmaps: [ Ссылка ]
• ProdPad’s Sandbox: [ Ссылка ]
• Geoffrey Moore’s product vision template: [ Ссылка ]
• The Art of Profitability: [ Ссылка ]
• The Sandman on Netflix: [ Ссылка ]
• Startups for the Rest of Us podcast: [ Ссылка ]
• Christina Wodtke on Twitter: [ Ссылка ]

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In this episode, we cover:

(00:00) Janna’s background
(05:28) How the community evolved at Mind the Product
(08:22) The tricky logistics of putting together a conference
(10:48) Are conferences profitable?
(13:00) How Janna developed her storytelling and presentation skills
(16:44) How to fight performance anxiety
(19:25) Mistakes are humanizing—how to power through and deliver your presentation
(22:11) The limitations of traditional timeline roadmaps
(25:00) Janna’s Now/Next/Later framework
(28:08) How to work without the structure of dated timelines, and why soft launches are important
(32:57) What great product teams are doing well
(35:05) The importance of retrospectives
(36:45) How to shift the culture at larger companies
(39:43) How ProdPad creates better product management practices
(42:04) How to learn the Now/Next/Later framework
(46:59) Geoffrey Moore’s product vision template
(48:36) Lessons for PMs interested in becoming founders
(50:48) Lightning round

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