I've really been getting into the idea lately of more scripted videos to stay more on topic better and shoot jumping ahead to a new topic before an old one too soon. Having lots of lore discussion with people, I realized it's a little too easy to get lost in another topic all together in the stead of the original topic you were meaning to go on about. As a result of this tempting ease of jumping at topics that come into mind, I tried my best to keep it more tied to a script that goes the most in depth of the topics that catch my attention. Anything that didn't quite fit into the script but related on the note, I was ready like usual to bring it onto screen like if I missed something I wanted to go with the subject.

To better recap that last section, I believe in Melina as the Kindling Maiden, however, she would be the original and well before the idea of Fingermaidens for kindling. And as a result taken before her time in some way back in Messmer's time in the Lands Between as the first Cardinal Sin. Considering it bunches the two in text, I think Messmer may have had some hand in making Melina and her prophecy of flame disappear, and as a result the ban of fire would emerge for the Erdtree and Messmer's face would indefinitely become more private in some way.

People have also brought attention to more ideas recently as to what the Gloam Eyed Queen may look like that I've been all for. Newer looks at tiny details on things like the Godskin sets and weapons, the Gravekeepr set, as well as the Abductor Virgins, and I'm all for these newer opinions and observations. These observations coming from a couple other lore folks who are doing fantastic work below.

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These topical notes also fit in good detail of symbolism and representational use with the enjoyment of the once practice of coliseum duelists fashioned after the imagery of one seen as a traitor whom would be cheered for being beaten up. The use of haunting imagery against others of the Golden Order is also a well established tactic already employed by many in the Lands Between, so using such a tactic to do of the Gloam Eyed Queen would also be of a favorable use in situations such as the Abductor Virgins. Whichever the truest case of scenario for a likeness of her, I don't assume she would be the imagery of someone more common and in service to the Golden Order, and so the styling of the Abductor Virgins as designs unlike anything nor anyone else we may have seen would be fitting imagery of such a great individual. Overall this topic tends to get the most "_ is the Gloam Eyed Queen" of any mysterious topic we see in Elden Ring and I feel it's necessary to be more hypercritical as a result. And to be clear, lots of names get thrown in that blank! Melina, Marika, Metyr, Snowy Crone, Eiglay... I like to think that we also have prime opportunity to reimagine what this Gloam Eyed Queen could look like with the ideas of snakes as part of their presentation which could be based loosely on Medusa or even the Minoan Snake Goddess especially since topics of Messmer tie really well to topics of King Minos in Greek Mythology (who also relates to the "Minoan" mention indefinitely.)

I came up with one last theory while making the thumbnail after uploading the edited video to YouTube. I think they're situated in Caelid because they know Godrick won't go there for it. Also making the thumbnail, I realized the Fire Monk weapons are stylistically similar to Messmer's spear.

00:00 Intro
02:00 When could she have fit in? (Before Erdtree)
11:25 When could she have fit in? (After Erdtree)
13:30 Messmer is likely related to the Godskins and Radagon
20:30 Godskins work for he Golden Order now
23:40 My thoughts and understanding of Melina and reasons why

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