What happens when we die? What leaves our body at the moment of death? Is it consciousness? And if so, is it also consciousness that leaves a deer or a tree when it no longer has life?
A man talks about his belief that everything, including a chair or a body is made of energy vibrating at different levels. He has been in the room when someone dies and clearly seen the life leave them. He asks what leaves us when we die?
Rupert replies that consciousness doesn’t leave you. The idea that consciousness leaves you presumes that you exist as a physical body and that consciousness is located inside you.
He uses the metaphor of Mary and Jane to illustrate that when the bundle of thinking, perceiving and sensing that we are comes to an end and expands back into consciousness, the corresponding image of that activity dissolves.
Mary lives in Amsterdam, falls asleep at night and experiences herself as Jane who lives in Paris. When Jane dies on the streets of Paris, Mary’s mind doesn’t suddenly leave her. Mary’s mind remains exactly as it always is, but it ceases to localise itself in the form of Jane. So what appears to be the death of Jane is the unlocalising of Mary’s mind as Jane. Nothing happens to Mary – she doesn’t die, she doesn’t change.
This clip comes from one of Rupert's In-Person Seven-Day Retreats at Garrison Institute, in October, 2021.
Timestamps:
00:00 What Happens When We Die?
01:06 What Leave Us At The Time of Death?
01:32 Does Consciousness Continue After Death?
02:40 The Body Dissolving Into Consciousness
03:46 The Physical Body Is Not What It Appears To Be
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