For Day 18 of The Realignment's daily Ukraine and beyond coverage, Marshall spoke with Dr. Sean McFate, professor of strategy at the National Defense University and author of The New Rules of War: How America Can Win--Against Russia, China, and Other Threats.

They discussed Dr. McFate's central argument that conventional warfare no longer furthers broad political objectives, why "peace" as we know it is over, and what Ukraine instructs about what's real and what's hype when it comes to predictions about the future of warfare.

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0:00 - Introduction
1:32 - Does anyone know how to win a war right now?
4:36 - Conventional war
6:50 - Glorification of WW2
10:07 - Military victory vs. political victory
16:25 - Are Nukes really off the table?
22:05 - The truth about the future of war
27:18 - The Maginot Line explained
31:51 - What does the future of war really look like
40:04 - How will the Ukraine conflict end?
42:17 - Mixed reactions to Sean’s book
47:57 - How do we fix the problems with U.S. military strategy?
53:13 - What traits do good strategic leaders have?
56:53 - Book’s Sean has written

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