Today former prison boss and gang leader Andre Norman sat down with me to talk about how to survive jail, spent 3 YEARS in solitary confinement, and became a Harvard Fellow. WELCOME TO CAMP.

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Sup people I'm Mark Gagnon. I'm a podcaster and comedian who cohosts FLAGRANT alongside Andrew Schulz, Akaash Singh, and the rest of the Flagrant crew. If you wanna see more of me and the people I pod with, subscribe to keep it coming. Thanks for watching.

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