Helen speaks to the legendary Black lesbian feminist scholar Barbara Smith and Meg Onli, co-curator of the 2024 Whitney Biennial, about identity politics in the art world today, the role of criticism, and questions of cultural appropriation.

Barbara Smith is the 2022–23 Robert L. Hess Scholar-in-Residence at Brooklyn College, and you can support her work at The Smith Caring Circle.

Meg Onli is the curator of Carolyn Lazard: Long Take, on view at the ICA Philadelphia until July 9, 2023. She is the co-curator of Ulysses Jenkins: Without Your Interpretation, on view at the Julia Stoschek Foundation in Berlin through July 30, 2023.

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