How would the late Mark Kleiman have viewed the policy response to the pandemic? 0:45
The democratic legitimacy of the administrative state 13:39
Glenn: Policy experts can’t determine human values 17:11
Are the economic tradeoffs of shutdown too great? 28:20
Harold: The costs of Covid are vivid in people’s lives 37:28
Did Trump unintentionally help tamp down civil unrest? 43:36

Glenn Loury (Watson Institute for International and Public Affairs, Brown University), Harold Pollack (University of Chicago, The Century Foundation), and Steven Teles (Johns Hopkins, Niskanen Center)

Recorded April 17, 2020

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