On the fourth episode of the Apology podcast, the writer, chemist, and documentarian Hamilton Morris talks with Apology founder and editor Jesse Pearson about the three P's: peyote, Pynchon, and Philip K. Dick.

Apology is a podcast that features sprawling interviews with various cultural figures talking mainly about reading but also about anything else that comes up. It's made by Jesse Pearson, who also makes the sporadically-released literary-and-more magazine that is also called Apology.

Show-notes for this episode can be found at apologymagazine.com

Portrait of Hamilton by Andrew White

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