At the time of writing, war is spreading throughout West Asia. Of course, this is widely understood as an outgrowth of Israeli expansion and the ongoing genocide of Palestinians in Gaza. This week’s guest is back on Downstream to provide a century’s worth of historical context to enrich the way in which we think about the ongoing crisis.

Ilan Pappé is a historian and author of the new book ‘A Very Short History of Israel-Palestine Conflict’. He sat down with Aaron to talk about the lack of a viable left in Israel, why nation-states don’t work in the Middle East and why, ultimately, the British Empire is to blame.

00:00 Intro
02:43 What are Things Like in Israel Right Now
10:38 A Region at War
19:18 The Israeli Economy
24:08 The Existential Threat for Israel
33:07 What Happened in 2006
41:31 Is Israel Interested in a Two-State Solution?
46:13 What’s Up With Jordan?
57:03 Empires, Nations & Pan Arabism
01:13:33 Jewish Safety

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