Former Mormon Stephen Johnson joins the show to discuss the second half of his conversion from spiritualism to Catholicism. Matt and Stephen discuss new-age spirituality, Christianity, and hermeticism.

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Chapters:
00:00 Reaction from Last Interview
02:34 Leaving Mormonism
07:14 Is Mormonism a Cult?
11:06 Questioning Atheism
16:50 Alternatives for Objective Morality
20:54 Escaping Solipsism
26:45 Overcoming Hedonism
30:10 Emotional Affair in Africa
35:00 Government as God
41:00 Scientism leading to Mysticism
46:38 Schrödinger’s Cat and Elon Musk
51:35 Jewish Kabbalah
1:01:03 Hermeticism
1:10:03 Encounter with Psychedelics
1:14:00 Aleister Crowley and Marina Abramović
1:21:41 Why Choose Right Over Left
1:26:06 Spiritual Warfare
1:29:26 Encountering God in Scripture
1:34:53 Becoming a Christian
1:40:45 American Civil Religion
1:47:03 Quick Recap
1:48:30 Problems Surrounding the Rapture
1:54:18 Introduction to Patristics
1:57:16 Finding the Catholic Church
1:59:37 Church Scandals and Church Militant
2:02:45 Reconciling History with Reality
2:07:18 Converting to Catholicism
2:14:24 Dealing with the Hurdles
2:16:52 Brant Pitre
2:17:54 Just One More Phase?
2:21:50 Fr Gregory Pine’s Help

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