In April 2020, as the world sheltered in place and in honor of the 50th anniversary of Earth Day, we began streaming all four "Standing on Sacred Ground" films online for free and hosted interactive conversations via Zoom Webinars. This is a recording of the conversation that followed the screening of the third episode in the four-part series, "Fire and Ice."

Sacred Land Film Project Director, Christopher "Toby" McLeod spoke from his home in Berkeley with Gamo elder Dr. Wolde Tadesse from his home in Oxford, England. They were joined by former Christensen Fund director Dr. Kenneth Wilson under a full moon at his home in Borneo, where it was 3am.

Tadesse and Ken offered reflections on recent developments in Ethiopia, the status of the long campaign to protect indigenous rights and sacred places, and the world's response to coronavirus.

Original airdate: May 7, 2020

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