In episode 43 of Talking Roadmaps, Donna Lichaw discusses the roadmap for product management as companies scale with Phil Hornby. She emphasizes the importance of evolving leadership skills to match the rapid growth of businesses. Donna shares insights on how executives can transform their leadership to drive their companies forward effectively. She also touches on themes from her books, "The User’s Journey" and "The Leader’s Journey," providing practical advice for high-growth CEOs and teams.

Donna Lichaw is an internationally sought-after executive coach, keynote speaker, and bestselling author of The Leader’s Journey, the much-awaited followup to the The User’s Journey. She helps high-growth CEOs, executives, and teams level up their leadership so that they can more effectively propel their business forward.

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00:00 - Introduction
03:52 - The fight between the CEO and the Product Leader
07:56 - The different types of product people
15:45 - No two organisations are the same
23:52 - How do you control the conflict in an organisation?
30:24 - What are some of the key take aways from 'The Leader's Journey'?
34:24 - How do you help people and how can they get in touch?

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