NASA's Mark Wiese talks Artemis, Moon2024, 5-minute out of orbit shipping, "Star Wars" vs "Star Trek", "Armageddon", and life on MARS. Mark and Dooner also discuss how education in STEM, pop culture, vampire stars, black holes, and conspiracy theories are all helping to fuel a renewed interest in the modern space race.
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